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jemz ([personal profile] jemz) wrote2007-03-09 07:31 am
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Curiouser and curiouser

Because I am curious about writing fanfic and not because I had too much fun with the ticky boxes, I want to know your thoughts. Feel free to comment about your thoughts. Elaborate, explicate, or just expound. No, I was not reading the E section of the dictionary today. I did that yesterday. :-P



[Poll #943206]

So how do you deal with concrit? Or trying to give concrit to a writer who doesn't really listen? Either from a writer's or a reader's perspective.

I remember going to a panel workshop on writing held by [livejournal.com profile] ponderosa121 (and a few others whose names escape me) and sitting next to someone who blatantly ignored a lot of what they were saying about writing and saying her own point of view. She brought an interesting point of view in which she wrote for herself and no one else and doesn't need a beta. It's a waste of time. But she didn't take any of the concrit to be a better writer since she really had no interest in becoming a better writer.

I dunno. I just remember being frustrated by her careless dismissal of genuine efforts to get her to look at her writing skills as something to be constantly worked upon as a writer. I thought Pond and the others handled it very well. I thought then and there, if I ever write anything, I definately want to improve my writing.

Any thoughts?

:/ I think I am just rambling again. Need more tea.

[identity profile] happiestwhen.livejournal.com 2007-03-09 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the other thing, the "for fun" argument. I've seen a lot of people use it when they get defensive over their decision to not fix typos or accept concrit or seek out a beta reader. They say, "It's just fanfiction. It's just for fun." And I guess maybe I have a different definition of fun because part of the fun of fandom and writing fic for me is the potential to really write something stellar, or at least strive to. It's rewarding for me to get positive feedback, and also get negative feedback that allows me to do better next time.

"I'm just here for fun" sounds like such a lazy excuse, and you don't see any writers saying that in response to praise for their writing, so obviously they do like feeding their ego with good comments, but it's like they don't want to push their talent and see if it could take them even further.

I don't think fandom has to be workworkwork all the time, but why does "fun" have to mean slacking off and producing stuff of sucky quality? :\ It's not fun to me to know I'm just settling.

[identity profile] swtjemz.livejournal.com 2007-03-09 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
D: I definately think the "for fun" is a lazy writer's excuse not to go back and fix, the minimum, grammatical errors. Because if it was really for fun, the writer wouldn't post it.

I've written things just to write them and never have them posted because I don't think it was a good quality piece and written for fun. I'm not a writer by nature so I find it hard to find the words to fit the tone I want in a piece. If I ever put out a piece of fic, I want to be satisfied that it was a piece that I am proud of. Since it shows the level of my writing ability at that point. When I look back on my writing, I see the evolution/maturation of my skills in writing.

If it's a hobby that I enjoy, I want to be the best I can be in that hobby and not give lackluster effort. Otherwise, why do it as a hobby?

It really sucks to scroll by stories by names of authors whom you know isn't improving their writing skills or writing quality stories and know you're settling omg, pit of voles.

[identity profile] swtjemz.livejournal.com 2007-03-09 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
omg, pit of voles.

I know html, I swear! *facepalm*